Ablebodiedman..
So your reply is, in the context of my question:
You agree with Gods right to decide on matters of morality, and to execute those who don't live up to those standards. You don't find that execution morally offensive.
Therefore if you were in God's place, you would (hypothetically) kill any of your children who disagreed with their father's moral standards (that's assuming they even believed that the letters containing those standards came from you).
It would be your right to do so, as you created them..? Or do you personally disagree with this concept, of Jesus killing anyone who disagrees with His moral standards, but feel that you have to accept it because God has the power and you do not? Either you would do the same, and you agree with this way of using supreme power, or you disagree but feel that your feelings on the matter are irrelevant..?
Thanks for answering, I appreciate it.
(I mean that seriously, many would just ignore my questions.)
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If you don't believe in God, Jesus, and everything in the Bible, you are willfully ignorant.
by defender of truth inablebodiedman posted~ 10 mins ago (8/16/2014).
post 741 of 741. .
"i absolutely 100% believe in god, jesus christ and everything recorded in the bible.. the reason why is because of the overwhelming amount of evidence.. there is so much evidence that it has taken me years to examine what has cemented my own convictions.".
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If you don't believe in God, Jesus, and everything in the Bible, you are willfully ignorant.
by defender of truth inablebodiedman posted~ 10 mins ago (8/16/2014).
post 741 of 741. .
"i absolutely 100% believe in god, jesus christ and everything recorded in the bible.. the reason why is because of the overwhelming amount of evidence.. there is so much evidence that it has taken me years to examine what has cemented my own convictions.".
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HowTheBibleWasCreated.. I know you are being tongue-in-cheek, but that kind of comment is a bit unhelpful, and possibly violating posting guideline 1.
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I know there is NO GOD
by jam inisis, plain and simple.
if there is a god there is no way he.
would allow this to occur (beheading of james foley).
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Magnum:"Even pre-human history is filled with horror and suffering. Life in nature is largely about the struggle to survive. If one is not at the top of the food chain, he lives life watching over his shoulder. And even those at the top of the food chain suffer and have to watch over their shoulders when they get sick and/or old. I've seen videos of what can happen to a lone old lion when a pack of hyenas comes around. It's hideous brutality. Been going on for eons.
Where has God been all those millions upon millions of years?"
Exactly.. Yet believers seem to want to ignore that point.
(Discussion of why God allows animals to suffer)
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/222352/1/Theists-why-does-God-allow-suffering#.U_Ur_l2t-o8 -
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Get well Grace (Mouthy)
by label licker ina loud get well grace from all of us to you.
everyone, grace has been in and out of the hospital and i'm sure she would love to read your get wells.
we miss you grace:) wish i could post pictures.
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defender of truth
Bttt for Mouthy to see, hopefully :)
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Get well Grace (Mouthy)
by label licker ina loud get well grace from all of us to you.
everyone, grace has been in and out of the hospital and i'm sure she would love to read your get wells.
we miss you grace:) wish i could post pictures.
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defender of truth
Here are the links I tried to PM you, Mouthy. You met him years ago, I thought you might want to know his wife had died. Here's a picture to jog your memory...
http://a.imageshack.us/img705/1397/003rek.jpg
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help needed....cult question from watchtower
by goingthruthemotions inso i was looking at the boards not too long ago and saw a list of questions that were related to whether or not a religion was a cult that looked like it came from the watchtower.
i've been trying to find those questions again so i could find the watchtower and hopefully one day show this to my wife who is still asleep to the troof of the gb.. .
the help would be greatly appreciated.. .
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help needed....cult question from watchtower
by goingthruthemotions inso i was looking at the boards not too long ago and saw a list of questions that were related to whether or not a religion was a cult that looked like it came from the watchtower.
i've been trying to find those questions again so i could find the watchtower and hopefully one day show this to my wife who is still asleep to the troof of the gb.. .
the help would be greatly appreciated.. .
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defender of truth
I've asked Atlantis for the January 22nd 1990 Awake!, in case it's the right one. Will you let us know how your wife reacts? Take care.
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help needed....cult question from watchtower
by goingthruthemotions inso i was looking at the boards not too long ago and saw a list of questions that were related to whether or not a religion was a cult that looked like it came from the watchtower.
i've been trying to find those questions again so i could find the watchtower and hopefully one day show this to my wife who is still asleep to the troof of the gb.. .
the help would be greatly appreciated.. .
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This could be the list you were referring to, with the exact reference in the footnotes...
"References:
1. Awake!, published by Watchtower, January 22, 1990, p. 10."
http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2012/04/watchtower-identifies-brainwashing.html
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And from Jwfacts...
"The Watchtower acknowledges that it is possible to persuade people to act in a certain way and shows it is well aware of methods that can be used to influence people to act en masse."...
"The person most easily brainwashed is the "normal," average individual. Such a one is already conditioned to accept opinions of others rather than to form strong convictions of his own."
Awake! 1980 Jan 8 pp.13-14 Has Mass Persuasion Affected You?...
"The following quotes on propaganda are excerpts from the Awake! 2000 June 22 in the articles "The Manipulation of Information" and "Do Not Be a Victim of Propaganda!"
"The cunning propagandist loves such shortcuts-especially those that short-circuit rational thought. Propaganda encourages this by agitating the emotions, by exploiting insecurities, by capitalizing on the ambiguity of language, and by bending rules of logic. …
Certainly, the handiest trick of the propagandist is the use of outright lies. …
Another very successful tactic of propaganda is generalization. Generalizations tend to obscure important facts about the real issues in question, and they are frequently used to demean entire groups of people. …
Some people insult those who disagree with them by questioning character or motives instead of focusing on the facts. …
The sly art of propaganda can paralyse thought, prevent clear thinking and discernment and condition individuals to act en masse. …
Emotional appeals are fabricated by practiced publicists, who play on feelings as skillfully as a virtuoso plays the piano. For example,fear is an emotion that can becloud judgment. …
THERE is a difference-a big difference-between education and propaganda. Education shows you how to think. Propaganda tells you what to think. Good educators present all sides of an issue and encourage discussion. Propagandists relentlessly force you to hear their view and discourage discussion.Often their real motives are not apparent. They sift the facts, exploiting the useful ones and concealing the others. They also distort and twist facts, specializing in lies and half-truths. Your emotions, not your logical thinking abilities, are their target. …
The propagandist makes sure that his message appears to be the right and moral one and that it gives you a sense of importance and belonging if you follow it. You are one of the smart ones, you are not alone, you are comfortable and secure-so they say. …
So we need to be selective. We need to scrutinize whatever is presented to us, deciding what to accept and what to reject. …
Also, if possible, try to check the track record of those speaking. Are they known to speak the truth?"
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SoCal meetup
by Dagney inwe have a visitor from far away with us, "hopscotch" as she is known on the board.. we would to put out a "shout-out" for any and all who would like to join us for a meetup this coming weekend, august 21 or 22. we are open to suggestions for where and when.
i would like to encourage any in the area, and even if you are not, to join us.
i cannot tell you how wonderful it is to meet up with the kindred spirits of those who are on the journey we are all on.
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defender of truth
Hi all. This member lives in California.
Just trying to see if anyone wants to arrange a meetup in the area, or just speak to him, if that's what he wants?
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"It would be nice to talk to some of you and hear your voice...I try to make friends but it would be easier to get to know ones that have had similar experiences to mine."
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/experiences/282808/2/Thats-it#5076435 -
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Northern/Central California meetup ~end of June/Mid July???
by Kudra ini will be coming out to the sierras/reno/lake tahoe this summer from the end of june through mid july.
don't know my exact dates yet- depends on the dates for snowmelt in the high sierra.. anyone up for a meet-up then??
we had such a blast last year .
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Hi all. This member lives in California.
Just trying to see if anyone wants to arrange a meetup in the area, or just speak to him, if that's what he wants?
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"It would be nice to talk to some of you and hear your voice...I try to make friends but it would be easier to get to know ones that have had similar experiences to mine."
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/experiences/282808/2/Thats-it#5076435
